British Citizenship Referee When to Submit It or Do I Upload Online

howdy moderators and users.
I went today the one in the Birmingham cadre office. very easy going procedure. i already uploaded my documents so they just took the bio metric, motion picture and browse my first passport page. luckily i got response from UKVI same day afterward couple of hours with case number.

One affair which confused me, They didnnot took my referee'south letters. even though i asked them besides if i dont need to transport these messages then whats the purpose for these docs. but they said we dont demand these letters .any body who has aforementioned experience.??

Post past **alterhase58** » Tue December 25, 2018 10:23 am

zindagi03 wrote: ↑
Mon December 24, 2018 seven:47 pm
how-do-you-do moderators and users.
I went today the one in the Birmingham core office. very easy going procedure. i already uploaded my documents and then they just took the bio metric, motion picture and scan my start passport page. luckily i got response from UKVI same day after couple of hours with example number.

One affair which confused me, They didnnot took my referee's letters. fifty-fifty though i asked them too if i dont need to transport these letters then whats the purpose for these docs. but they said we dont need these letters .whatsoever body who has same feel.??

What is a referee alphabetic character?

Mail service by **shi12345678** » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:03 pm

Dear Friends

I am applying for citizenship for me and my family.I would similar your advise on an issue I have come across while filling awarding .
In the on line application for citizenship, while filling the form on (https://visas-clearing.service.gov.u ... pplication.

The main problem is my female parent has simply given proper noun and no surname, so surname part in passport, or any other documentation is empty .

When I try to fill post-obit part of the class " Give details about your starting time parent" , I cannot fill surname because mothers proper noun has no surname. So I left it blank . Merely the organization is non letting me go farther in the application . I tried to put the given name blank and write the given name in surname department : even and so organization doesnot allow me to go farther.

So for time being , I have put same name in both first proper noun and surname, to keep remaining office of the class . But I would similar to get your suggestion , if such happens , other organisations accept given some instructions to make full . (as I learnt by searching , I realised they suggest to fill a . or - ) . I woukd be gratefulif you could give your valuable advise.

Sorry for this inconvenience
Thanks

Post by **alterhase58** » Tue Dec 25, 2018 iv:07 pm

shi12345678 wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:03 pm
Dear Friends

I am applying for citizenship for me and my family unit.I would like your advise on an effect I have come across while filling application .
In the on line application for citizenship, while filling the grade on (https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... pplication.

The chief trouble is my mother has only given name and no surname, then surname part in passport, or any other documentation is empty .

When I attempt to make full post-obit part of the class " Give details about your first parent" , I cannot fill up surname because mothers name has no surname. Then I left it blank . But the system is not letting me become further in the application . I tried to put the given name bare and write the given name in surname section : even then organisation doesnot permit me to get further.

Then for time existence , I accept put same name in both first name and surname, to continue remaining part of the form . But I would like to get your suggestion , if such happens , other organisations take given some instructions to fill . (equally I learnt by searching , I realised they suggest to fill a . or - ) . I woukd be gratefulif you could give your valuable advise.

Sorry for this inconvenience
Cheers

Why don't you country the fact there is no surname by typing in "none"? And perchance explain the fact?

Mail service past **zindagi03** » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:57 pm

alterhase58 wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:23 am

zindagi03 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 24, 2018 seven:47 pm
hi moderators and users.
I went today the 1 in the Birmingham cadre office. very easy going procedure. i already uploaded my documents and so they just took the bio metric, pic and browse my first passport page. luckily i got response from UKVI same mean solar day after couple of hours with case number.

One thing which dislocated me, They didnnot took my referee's letters. even though i asked them besides if i dont demand to send these letters then whats the purpose for these docs. simply they said we dont need these letters .any torso who has same experience.??

What is a referee letter?

Hi
Sorry for inconvenience. these are Referee declaration forms .

Mail service past **zindagi03** » Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:38 am

hullo moderators and users.
I went Birmingham core office to submit naturalization application.
They didnnot took my Referee declaration forms . even though i asked them. but they said we dont need these letters.

everyone who has same experience.??

Many thanks in accelerate.

Post by **shi12345678** » Wednesday Dec 26, 2018 xi:13 am

alterhase58 wrote: ↑
Tue December 25, 2018 iv:07 pm

shi12345678 wrote: ↑
Tue December 25, 2018 4:03 pm
Dearest Friends

I am applying for citizenship for me and my family.I would like your advise on an issue I have come across while filling awarding .
In the on line application for citizenship, while filling the form on (https://visas-clearing.service.gov.u ... pplication.

The main problem is my mother has merely given name and no surname, then surname function in passport, or any other documentation is empty .

When I endeavour to fill following part of the form " Give details virtually your first parent" , I cannot fill up surname because mothers proper name has no surname. So I left it blank . But the system is non letting me get further in the application . I tried to put the given name blank and write the given proper noun in surname department : even then system doesnot let me to get further.

So for time being , I take put same name in both outset name and surname, to keep remaining role of the form . But I would like to go your proffer , if such happens , other organisations accept given some instructions to fill up . (as I learnt by searching , I realised they advise to fill a . or - ) . I woukd exist gratefulif you could requite your valuable advise.

Sorry for this inconvenience
Thanks

Why don't you country the fact there is no surname by typing in "none"? And perhaps explicate the fact?

Thank you . i volition do it . I hope that should work. but I dont know if some one is already in the same situation, then that I go reassurance ..

Mail by **johnhkg** » Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:42 pm

zindagi03 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:47 pm
hullo moderators and users.
I went today the one in the Birmingham cadre part. very easy going procedure. i already uploaded my documents so they only took the bio metric, pic and browse my first passport page. luckily i got response from UKVI same twenty-four hours later couple of hours with case number.

One matter which dislocated me, They didnnot took my referee's letters. even though i asked them as well if i dont demand to send these messages and then whats the purpose for these docs. just they said we dont demand these letters .any body who has same experience.??

Did you non scan and upload the referee declarations? I recently did this and plant that UKVCAS practice not take any paper documents, scans only.

Mail service by **johnhkg** » Midweek Dec 26, 2018 12:50 pm

shi12345678 wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:03 pm
Dear Friends

I am applying for citizenship for me and my family.I would like your propose on an issue I have come beyond while filling application .
In the on line awarding for citizenship, while filling the class on (https://visas-clearing.service.gov.u ... pplication.

The main problem is my female parent has simply given name and no surname, so surname part in passport, or whatsoever other documentation is empty .

When I try to fill following function of the form " Give details virtually your kickoff parent" , I cannot fill surname considering mothers name has no surname. So I left it blank . But the arrangement is not letting me become farther in the application . I tried to put the given name bare and write the given name in surname section : fifty-fifty then system doesnot allow me to get further.

And so for time being , I have put same name in both starting time name and surname, to keep remaining part of the form . Merely I would similar to become your suggestion , if such happens , other organisations have given some instructions to fill . (every bit I learnt past searching , I realised they suggest to fill a . or - ) . I woukd be gratefulif you could give your valuable propose.

Deplorable for this inconvenience
Cheers

I concord, the online form is not user friendly and in that location's no function to input explanations for missing data. The biggest problem I institute was with dates. For one person I do not have a total date of birth, just you cannot leave any field blank or leave out the 24-hour interval or month or input "twenty", and then I just had to make up a date.

If I could accept a conversation with the designer of this online form he'd walk abroad with a very red face!!!

I agree with alterhase58, only put 'none" in place of the missing name (merely like Jack None Reacher - if you read Lee Child books )

Mail past **masoodhussain** » Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:07 pm

johnhkg wrote: ↑
Midweek Dec 26, 2018 12:42 pm

zindagi03 wrote: ↑
Mon December 24, 2018 7:47 pm
hullo moderators and users.
I went today the one in the Birmingham cadre role. very easy going procedure. i already uploaded my documents so they just took the bio metric, pic and scan my first passport folio. luckily i got response from UKVI aforementioned day subsequently couple of hours with instance number.

I thing which confused me, They didnnot took my referee's letters. fifty-fifty though i asked them besides if i dont need to transport these letters then whats the purpose for these docs. but they said we dont need these letters .any body who has same feel.??

Did yous not scan and upload the referee declarations? I recently did this and found that UKVCAS do not take any paper documents, scans merely.

many thanks for respond. i insisted them to upload these because otherwise tgese are useless. and so fortunately they scanned it.
i wish y'all volition go a quick positive decision.
many thanks

Post by **arovbukay** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:38 am

zindagi03 wrote: ↑
Monday Dec 24, 2018 7:47 pm
how-do-you-do moderators and users.
I went today the one in the Birmingham cadre function. very easy going process. i already uploaded my documents so they just took the bio metric, pic and scan my starting time passport page. luckily i got response from UKVI same day after couple of hours with example number.

One matter which confused me, They didnnot took my referee's messages. even though i asked them too if i dont demand to ship these letters then whats the purpose for these docs. but they said nosotros dont need these messages .any torso who has same experience.??

Hi - what exactly did you become back " luckily i got response from UKVI same day after couple of hours with case number." from which electronic mail accost?

They scanned my referral letters which is weird as they asked the referees to write your proper name on the dorsum of the photos :S

Post by **Kancho** » Sabbatum Dec 29, 2018 four:04 pm

Hi im in process of online awarding where the referee details required and i have filled my two referee details in the section so my question is practise i demand to go their signatures besides as a part of my online awarding and volition it give the choice at the finish under proclamation section please who done this already guide me .Thanks

Mail service by **CR001** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:19 pm

Kancho wrote: ↑
Sat December 29, 2018 four:04 pm
Hi im in procedure of online application where the referee details required and i take filled my two referee details in the section so my question is do i need to get their signatures as well equally a part of my online application and volition it requite the option at the terminate under announcement department delight who done this already guide me .Thanks

Yes, you will need to print it off and get them each to sign.

Post past **skyscraper101** » Monday Dec 31, 2018 2:46 pm

Nosotros went to the UKVCAS eye in Croydon on 20th Dec to do Biometrics and scan docs. Should we have expected a instance number by now (31st December)?

The UKVCAS website all the same seems to be available to login and upload additional documents. How long does information technology normally have to go on to the next stride?

Post by **Kancho** » Mon December 31, 2018 3:39 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:19 pm

Kancho wrote: ↑
Sat December 29, 2018 4:04 pm
Hi im in process of online application where the referee details required and i take filled my 2 referee details in the section then my question is do i need to go their signatures too equally a part of my online awarding and will it give the option at the terminate under declaration section please who done this already guide me .Cheers

Yes, y'all will demand to print it off and get them each to sign.

Thanks for the reply

Mail by **Kinan** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:48 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑
Sabbatum Dec 29, 2018 6:19 pm

Kancho wrote: ↑
Saturday Dec 29, 2018 iv:04 pm
Hi im in process of online application where the referee details required and i have filled my ii referee details in the section so my question is do i demand to get their signatures too as a part of my online application and will information technology give the option at the end nether declaration section please who done this already guide me .Cheers

Yes, you volition need to print information technology off and become them each to sign.

Thanks everybody for your useful participation, additionally to referee form signature, will sign date a problem? if has been signed inside the last month before submitting the online awarding or will need to be signed and dated after submitting the application ?
Thanks in advance

Post by **Hioru** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:18 pm

arovbukay wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:38 am

zindagi03 wrote: ↑
Mon December 24, 2018 seven:47 pm
hi moderators and users.
I went today the one in the Birmingham core part. very easy going procedure. i already uploaded my documents and so they just took the bio metric, pic and scan my start passport folio. luckily i got response from UKVI same day later on couple of hours with example number.

One affair which dislocated me, They didnnot took my referee's letters. fifty-fifty though i asked them as well if i dont demand to send these messages then whats the purpose for these docs. but they said we dont need these letters .whatever trunk who has same experience.??

They scanned my referral letters which is weird as they asked the referees to write your name on the dorsum of the photos :Due south

Wait what, I thought the applicant was meant to write the proper name and dates at the back of the picture! That'southward what I did lol...

The text on the form said "This part of the form is to exist filled in by the bidder'due south referees once their photo has been fastened, as explained above.", so I did the picture part and tgen posted to my referees for them to make full the form. Well, will see what happens now!

Mail by **shi12345678** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:08 pm

HAPPY New year's day TO ALL

In the new ONLINE form , documents to exist sent has list . One of them is
"A letter of consent from Mr ...'due south parent(southward) or legal guardian(s)"

Is at that place any example of consent form? or shall i just fill the part in mn1 form and scan information technology and send ?

Thanks for response in advance

best reagrds

Post by **johnhkg** » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:41 pm

Expect what, I thought the applicant was meant to write the name and dates at the back of the moving picture! That's what I did lol...

The text on the form said "This part of the form is to be filled in by the bidder's referees once their photo has been attached, as explained above.", then I did the picture role and tgen posted to my referees for them to fill the form. Well, will run across what happens now!

You are right. Bidder is to write full proper noun and date of nascency on back of photo before fixing onto the class. Then the referees can sign. This is to ensure that if the photo becomes detached (e.g. at UKVI) it can exist correctly identified. Nevertheless, with the new system the referee documents never leave your hand, y'all scan and upload them to UKVCAS website.

Post by **luhpaoli** » Tue January 01, 2019 seven:xiii pm

Hi All,

I am submitting my application together with my husband, can someone advise, if you have called the new service, you need to pay the service fee per person?

thanks.

Post by **alterhase58** » Tue January 01, 2019 7:43 pm

luhpaoli wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:13 pm
Howdy All,

I am submitting my awarding together with my married man, can someone advise, if you have chosen the new service, y'all need to pay the service fee per person?

cheers.

The fee is per person - each application is individual.

Postal service by **Kinan** » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:xviii pm

Thanks everybody for your useful participation, additionally to referee grade signature, volition sign date a problem? if has been signed within the final month before submitting the online application or will demand to be signed and dated after submitting the application ?
Thanks in advance

Post by **skyscraper101** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:05 am

We made our application back at the beginning of Dec, uploaded scanned docs to the Sopra Steria UKVCAS site, and registered Biometrics in Croydon (with some additional docs they scanned there) on 20th December.

It's now Jan 2 and the Sopra Steria / UKVCA Site is even so open to log into, and lets us send additional scaned docs. Does anyone accept any idea how long this remains open for once they've enrolled biometrics? Does it automatically progress with a example number at any indicate? We were given no indication once we left the facility in Croydon what happens next, and how long it takes to go on with a case number.

Post by **johnhkg** » Midweek Jan 02, 2019 5:14 pm

skyscraper101 wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:05 am
We made our application back at the beginning of December, uploaded scanned docs to the Sopra Steria UKVCAS site, and registered Biometrics in Croydon (with some additional docs they scanned at that place) on 20th December.

It's now Jan 2 and the Sopra Steria / UKVCA Site is even so open to log into, and lets us send additional scaned docs. Does anyone have any idea how long this remains open for once they've enrolled biometrics? Does it automatically progress with a instance number at any point? We were given no indication once we left the facility in Croydon what happens side by side, and how long it takes to proceed with a case number.

This is typical of the problems being identified with the new UKVCAS organisation. There are glitches. Firstly UKVCAS do not provide whatever proof that you process with them has been successfully completed. Secondly they are supposed to transmit all documentation to UKVI that same twenty-four hours, but as you say, your account with them appears to still exist active. Personally I'm not willing to input annihilation at that place just in case.

It volition take time to improve their service.

Mail by **Antecedent** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:57 pm

Kinan wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:eighteen pm
Thanks everybody for your useful participation, additionally to referee grade signature, will sign date a trouble? if has been signed within the last calendar month before submitting the online application or will need to be signed and dated after submitting the application ?
Cheers in advance

Within last month should be fine, mine signed within month before and no problem.

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